In a heated exchange, CNN anchor John Berman and Rep. Mike Waltz (R-Fla.) debated the use of charged terms like "fascist" and "socialist" to describe the two presidential candidates. Waltz defended Trump's comments about "enemies within," while Berman questioned his own description of Harris as a "socialist."
CNN anchor John Berman and Rep. Mike Waltz (R-Fla.) engaged in a tense debate Tuesday morning over politically charged terms like "fascist" and "socialist" that have been used to describe the two presidential candidates.
CNN Berman and Rep. Waltz Spar Over 'Fascist' and 'Socialist' Labels for Presidential Candidates
At a recent rally in Erie, Pennsylvania, Vice President Kamala Harris played a mashup of clips in which Trump warned of dangers from "the enemy within." Trump labeled those who criticize judges and justices as more dangerous than Russia and China.
In response to Trump's comments, Berman asked Waltz if it was responsible for the former president to make such statements. Waltz claimed that Trump was referring to issues that are "detrimental" to democracy in the United States and undermine public trust in institutions. He cited Congressman Adam Schiff as an example, accusing him of leaking information and lying to the public.
CNN Berman and Rep. Waltz Spar Over 'Fascist' and 'Socialist' Labels for Presidential Candidates
Berman then referenced the "lunatic" comment directed at Schiff and suggested that Trump was also referring to dealing with "lunatics" in a hypothetical military deployment. Waltz countered by pointing out that two attempts have been made to assassinate Trump, including one by Iran. He argued that the heated rhetoric directed at Trump is more concerning than anything he said at a rally.
Berman then questioned Waltz about his own characterization of Harris as a "socialist." Waltz insisted that socialism is a "longstanding political ideology" that is different from calling Trump a "god-awful dictator" or Hitler. He also noted that some members of Congress refer to themselves as "democratic socialists."
CNN Berman and Rep. Waltz Spar Over 'Fascist' and 'Socialist' Labels for Presidential Candidates
Berman tried to draw a comparison between Waltz's comments about Harris and retired Gen. Mark Milley's remarks about Trump. Milley reportedly called Trump "the most dangerous person to this country" and a "total fascist." Waltz argued that fascism is a political ideology, while Marxism is "underpinning" some of Harris' policies, such as price controls.
The debate between Berman and Waltz highlighted the increasing use of extreme labels in political discourse. The terms "fascist" and "socialist" have historically been associated with repressive regimes and economic systems, respectively. Their current usage reflects the highly polarized nature of American politics and the growing tendency to demonize opponents.
It is important to note that the use of these terms is often subjective and can depend on one's perspective. For example, some may view Trump's policies as fascist, while others may see them as conservative or populist. Similarly, some may label Harris a socialist, while others may see her as a moderate or progressive Democrat.
It is essential for both politicians and the media to use language responsibly and to avoid demonizing those with whom they disagree. The use of charged labels can create a toxic atmosphere that makes it difficult to have constructive dialogue and find common ground.
